I've ordered and spent lot $ on shorts many not fit as size like L, but these give good description of waist size and was true to size when I received them. I also tried these for colors offered and good style pockets that have the heavy duty snaps not cheap velcro or sewn on buttons that tear off. Fabric, buttons on pockets, size all seem to be very good quality and My new Favorite ones! Well worth it, very nice thank you !